Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

It would be nice to be able to prevent Brief from showing updated entries. Some websites update their feed entries quite often which in turn keeps reviving already read items over and over again. This generates a lot of noise in Brief and makes it harder to follow updates from such websites.

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

As of the next version there's gonna be an about:config preference for that:
extensions.brief.database.markUpdatedEntriesUnread (default true)

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

Thanks! This is a step in the right direction. But... Please, consider making this a feed property, because for some websites reviving updates is actually very useful. For example: it is good to know an article on a news site got updated with new details, but, on the other hand, some social bookmarking sites can drown you with updates as they bump their entries every time someone bookmarks an item.

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

I see your point, but I am really hesitant to put put this option in the UI. It seems too advanced and "edge-casy" to merit placing it in the interface for everyone to see.

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

Well, with Brief being unable to adjust the level of incoming noise, usability of the aggregator is hurt. But global filter will hurt usability too, because it'd be like setting your spam protection to delete all incoming mail from, say, gmail.com domain. Therefore only a handful of users will find global filter useful, while the rest of us will still be forced to manually mark all the revived entries as read, so we don't miss an important update, which is very tedious and time consuming.

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

Therefore only a handful of users will find global filter useful, while the rest of us will still be forced to manually mark all the revived entries as read, which is very tedious and time consuming, so we don't miss an important update.

Not "the rest of us", because most users don't need this setting at all. From my experience, the overwhelming majority of feeds usually don't change already released items and when they do, they change them in a significant way (e.g. edited blog posts), so it's useful to mark these items as unread again. Only a small subset of feed providers constantly update their entries.

It's probably the most common in case of news websites, but then it makes sense to update the entries as the articles are edited because of new developments.

Like I said, I still understand your use case, but as a rule I am extremely reluctant to add new options in the UI. In another topic I raised the possibility of removing one of the other options, which would pave the way for adding this one.

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

I don't think that trading one useful feature for another is the best approach, so I want to propose a slightly different solution. There could be two about:config options: one global flag for ignoring updates, while the other would contain a list of feed URLs that are exception to that rule. There, no UI option, yet the noise is eliminated.

Not "the rest of us", because most users don't need this setting at all. From my experience, the overwhelming majority of feeds usually don't change already released items and when they do, they change them in a significant way (e.g. edited blog posts), so it's useful to mark these items as unread again.

I would prefer if it was me, the user, who decides whether the changes are relevant, not the software.

Only a small subset of feed providers constantly update their entries.

Perhaps. But what if those rare feeds are popular among the users? For example wired.com's news services like Danger Room or Wired Science are notorious for updating their articles without any hint to which part of the article was actually updated. If you don't want to reread lengthy text every time it pops up in your aggregator again, you need to keep clicking that "mark as read" button. Same goes for social bookmarking websites. Now I'm not claiming they are very popular among Brief's user base, but I wouldn't count them as dismissable either.

To sum it up... I'm not trying to argue. I just think that keeping things too simple could in certain circumstances do more harm than good.

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I don't think that trading one useful feature for another is the best approach,

Oh, neither do I. In fact, it would be a ridiculous thing to do. I want to remove the other feature on the premise that it isn't very useful after all.

To sum it up... I'm not trying to argue. I just think that keeping things too simple could in certain circumstances do more harm than good.

I don't mind when people argue, it means that they care which is great.

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

I don't mind when people argue, it means that they care which is great.

Oh... In that case, I didn't want to suggest that I don't care either. =)

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

I'd really like to be able to turn this off as a global setting at least (though I can see it being useful as a feed-specific option, e.g. just for BBC News which is the worst offender in my particular feed set).

Obviously if an entry is updated, but still not read yet, it could still say it's been updated.

Re: Feature request: Ignore entry updates in feeds

This feature would also be most useful to me since I receive a lot of "updated" feeds that haven't changed at all in content. Moreover I do not want to receive updates on all the feeds I subsribed to even if some informations have been added.
The best solution would be if this could be adjusted for all feeds AND for every single item, as the other user proposed.
In my case the advantage of brief that it so easy to use and control your feeds is really lost because I have to remove already read items twice to three times...